Ok. Though he hasn't responded to my reply to his unjust and totally unfounded accusation that I'm a covert Bush lover (makes my skin crawl & itch & my legs buckle), he apparently hasn't removed me from receiving his newsletters. I gather for once there were no newsletters dated yesterday.
My question still remains: Why do Obama supporters assume that everyone who questions him is either a Clinton supporter (and therefor pro Bush) or a conservative deadhead, or maybe a racist? Nobody's answered this. I continue to be crapped off by assumptions and blind faith. Today, I argued with a Clinton supporter who thinks she's going to make waves. David, as you recognize, it's highly unlikely that either Democrat will make waves unless they're of the tsunami variety.
PAX AND WAKE UP, AMERICA!
Saturday, April 26, 2008
Friday, April 25, 2008
Obama Rah Rah Rah --- Mark Crispin Miller: I'm now a tacit Bush supporter.
I've been a huge fan of Mark's and have attended 3 of his shows in NYC. I also invited him to speak at Hunter College of Social Work which he did and my FIRST KGB reading way back when, which was a wonderful presentation. So now, I think probably he's blocked me from receiving his newsletter because he's bought the OBAMA-PROGRESSIVE CHANGE hype I don't buy. And not because I'm a fan of Clinton's. I've told everyone: I'm not a fan of H R Clinton's. For awhile, I said I was opting for her, as I couldn't tolerate (and still can't tolerate) the misogynistic remarks by the Press and others. Then, I said NO. I can't believe in either "Democrat" as someone I'd be content to support. But that's no good. According to Miller, who's now (apparently) gone WOW WOW OBAMA, I'm a tacit Bush supporter.
Here's the exchange. In response to his dissemation of:
"I believe you might enjoy my article Clintons' Blind Eye to Voters at OpEdNews:
"Even Hillary's endorser, Bobby Kennedy, Jr., knows there's something funny
about the pattern of her wins."
Barbara Bellows-TerraNova"
I responded:
Ho Hum. Whenever Clinton wins, there's even more "Hillary" bashing. Well not really. Whenever she loses, everyone wants to shoo her out of the race, so Obama the alleged progressive (whose mentor was hawk Lieberman & who voted for the Patriot Act, and who has a plenty of corporate ties) will be the only candidate. Crap. Btw, why don't people call Obama by his first name? I'm tearing my hairs out, as I don't like any of the candidates and i'm well aware of Machiavellian Repugnican maneuvers, but I'm so so tired of the "Hillary" bashings. And both "Democratic" candidates have run negative campaigns. So get off your lame horses already! What else is new in Ameerica? Where's the leadership of the D party? What's Dean doing? Get over it!
And here was Mark's reply:
You're for Clinton--in fact, you think you are Clinton--so anything
her campaign does is okay.
Between you and a fervent Bush supporter there's no difference.
___
So then, I responded but got no answer, and I've received no posts from the group or a personal reply from Mark. So what am I to think? Here was my answer:
You're misreading me, Mark, and I don't know why. I'm not for Clinton. I said that. And I'm certainly NOT Clinton. That's a strange accusation.. At one point, I decided to back her, reluctantly, due to all the misogynistic attacks. Then I just couldn't. She's way too conservative for my tastes. I think C and O both play dirty and I hate her campaign. And I've said that. I just don't like the fact that Obama's hoodwinked lots of people into thinking he's progressive when he's not. If he gets in (and I'll vote for him if he's the nominee), I'm afraid he's going to disappoint lots of people. What's wrong with questioning people's assumptions? You do that. But when I say anything negative about Obama, I get skewered. What's going on?
_____________
Where are we at? I'm very much an admirer of Mark and I definitely believe that the last two elections were stolen. But I don't know what to do with Obama bandwagon stereotyping. Face it, friends. Neither candidate is progressive. Neither is what we need: an intense, heart/mind driven, ideologically/philosophically driven candidate who's going to MAKE A DIFFERENCE and even do whatever s/he can to ensure that global warming is (if possible) reversed. I AM SO SO TIRED OF OBAMA SUPPORTERS WHO LABEL ME A BUSHkike CONSERVATIVE or otherwise dismiss me totally FOR QUESTIONING HIS VERACITY.
Here's the exchange. In response to his dissemation of:
"I believe you might enjoy my article Clintons' Blind Eye to Voters at OpEdNews:
"Even Hillary's endorser, Bobby Kennedy, Jr., knows there's something funny
about the pattern of her wins."
Barbara Bellows-TerraNova"
I responded:
Ho Hum. Whenever Clinton wins, there's even more "Hillary" bashing. Well not really. Whenever she loses, everyone wants to shoo her out of the race, so Obama the alleged progressive (whose mentor was hawk Lieberman & who voted for the Patriot Act, and who has a plenty of corporate ties) will be the only candidate. Crap. Btw, why don't people call Obama by his first name? I'm tearing my hairs out, as I don't like any of the candidates and i'm well aware of Machiavellian Repugnican maneuvers, but I'm so so tired of the "Hillary" bashings. And both "Democratic" candidates have run negative campaigns. So get off your lame horses already! What else is new in Ameerica? Where's the leadership of the D party? What's Dean doing? Get over it!
And here was Mark's reply:
You're for Clinton--in fact, you think you are Clinton--so anything
her campaign does is okay.
Between you and a fervent Bush supporter there's no difference.
___
So then, I responded but got no answer, and I've received no posts from the group or a personal reply from Mark. So what am I to think? Here was my answer:
You're misreading me, Mark, and I don't know why. I'm not for Clinton. I said that. And I'm certainly NOT Clinton. That's a strange accusation.. At one point, I decided to back her, reluctantly, due to all the misogynistic attacks. Then I just couldn't. She's way too conservative for my tastes. I think C and O both play dirty and I hate her campaign. And I've said that. I just don't like the fact that Obama's hoodwinked lots of people into thinking he's progressive when he's not. If he gets in (and I'll vote for him if he's the nominee), I'm afraid he's going to disappoint lots of people. What's wrong with questioning people's assumptions? You do that. But when I say anything negative about Obama, I get skewered. What's going on?
_____________
Where are we at? I'm very much an admirer of Mark and I definitely believe that the last two elections were stolen. But I don't know what to do with Obama bandwagon stereotyping. Face it, friends. Neither candidate is progressive. Neither is what we need: an intense, heart/mind driven, ideologically/philosophically driven candidate who's going to MAKE A DIFFERENCE and even do whatever s/he can to ensure that global warming is (if possible) reversed. I AM SO SO TIRED OF OBAMA SUPPORTERS WHO LABEL ME A BUSHkike CONSERVATIVE or otherwise dismiss me totally FOR QUESTIONING HIS VERACITY.
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